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Altitude Insomnia Decider

Three radio questions separate normal periodic breathing at Yading's 4,000 m+ camps from insomnia that should make you stop and assess.

What this solves

Above ~3,500 m, your breathing reflex becomes unstable. Up to 40 % of trekkers develop periodic breathing — a crescendo-decrescendo pattern that wakes them up gasping. That is normal. But insomnia that does not include that pattern, or insomnia with a morning headache, can be early AMS. This tool keeps you from treating a warning sign as a quirk.

What happened last night?

1. Sleep pattern last night
2. Awakenings per night
3. Breathing pattern noticed (by partner or smartwatch)
4. Headache or nausea this morning

How to read the result

Normal periodic breathing — Above 3,500 m, the low-oxygen drive over-shoots. You breathe fast for 10–20 s, blood CO₂ drops, breathing almost stops, CO₂ rises, breathing kicks in again. If the pattern is cyclical and you wake up gasping but feel fine by morning, this is just altitude, not AMS.

Concerning — hydrate / no caffeine after 14:00 — Restless or wakeful nights without the cyclical pattern are usually sleep hygiene, dehydration, or anxiety about the climb. Fixable.

Warning sign — descend — Wet breathing, morning headache with vomiting, or non-cyclical insomnia with AMS symptoms are no longer "bad sleep." Treat as AMS, score it, descend ≥ 500 m.

Limitations

FAQ

Q: I do this every night above 3,500 m. Will it kill me?
A: No. Periodic breathing is uncomfortable but not dangerous by itself. The worry is when you stop sleeping enough to develop AMS — at that point descend, do not push through.
Q: Can I take something to sleep?
A: Acetazolamide 125 mg twice daily reduces periodic breathing. Avoid standard sleeping pills at altitude — they depress ventilation and can worsen SpO₂ dips. If you need a sleep aid, ask a travel-clinic doctor about low-dose zolpidem, not benzodiazepines.
Q: Why is it worse on the second night?
A: The "second-night effect" at altitude is real — your body is still adjusting to hypocapnia. By night 3 most people improve. If it doesn't, that's the signal.
Q: Does a sleeping bag warmth matter?
A: Yes. Cold stress worsens periodic breathing and fragments sleep. A 0 °C comfort-rated bag at Luorong (4,080 m) is not a luxury.

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